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This is a discussion on handling issues within the Motorcycle Safety forums, part of the General category; Has anyone heard of any high speed handling issues? This is new to me but there are articles on Harley's ...


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Old 12-11-2006   #1
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Has anyone heard of any high speed handling issues?
This is new to me but there are articles on Harley's and Honda's doing it on the net.
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I think that boots has been chasing this down for the past week. He has several posts and from the looks of it - me thinks he suspects that fork mounted fairings/windshields could be a factor. He has posts spread all over the site - it's hard for me to direct you to them!
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when a tank slapper actually occurs, not a wobble but a full out slapper, whats the best thing to do to get back under controll. or do you just close your eyes say a prayer and let you body go limp as you slide across the ground.
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Define slapper for me. To me it is what I did to my daughter when she bad mouthed me once. Only took once.
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Become familiar with your motorcycle manufacturer's inflation guidelines. Look in your motorcycle owner's manual to find the right
PSI (pounds per square inch) of air pressure for your tires. Some bike manufacturers also list this formation on the bike itself. Common locations include the swing arm, front fork tubes, inside the trunk,
and under the seat.


Keep in mind that these recommendations are usually dependent upon the weight of you and your passenger, as well as any cargo. For instance, some manufacturers advise adding 3 or 4 PSI when carrying
a heavy load. Know your vehicle weight and load, and follow the PSI recommendations specific to your motorcycle. Failure to do so can result in adverse motorcycle handling (wobble and weave) or tire failure, or both.
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when a tank slapper actually occurs, not a wobble but a full out slapper, whats the best thing to do to get back under controll. or do you just close your eyes say a prayer and let you body go limp as you slide across the ground.


Could not find a definition of slapper other than the red neck one.
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/dictionary/S.htm
Skid Lid - Slang term for a helmet.
Skiing - A type of stunt where a rider carefully jumps off the rear of the moving motorcycle, grabs the pillion grab rail and skis on the road surface. The world record stands in excess of 225 kph (140 mph). Also called skating.
Skin - New paint job
Slabbing it - Taking the Interstate Highway
Slam or Slammer - 1. Jockey Shift. 2. To lower a bike's suspension (or in extreme cases remove it entirely), also a remark made to someone with intent to make comments, sometimes of a rude nature, to elicit laughs from those who hear/read it.
Slave Cylinder - Hydraulic cylinder activated by the master cylinder, usually referring to clutch or brake cylinders.
Sled - Slang term for a motorcycle.
Slick - Treadless tire. Can refer to a race tire or a completely worn out tire with little or no tread left on it. Slick's offer the greatest dry traction to a road surface as friction is greatest since there is little/no air gap (tread) between the rubber and the road. A tyre specifically designed for use in road racing only that is made of a soft compound with no tread.
Slick Plastic Arrows - Directional traffic control arrows made of smooth white plastic that are glued to the road surface.
Slider - the throttle throat opening mechanism on a CV carb controlled by a diaphragm& Vacuum.
Slinky Riders - Riders in a group ride who consistently fail to maintain interval with the bike to their front are "slinky riders" and are a severe hazard to others.
Slip The Clutch - To play with or fan the clutch in order to prevent the engine stalling or spinning the rear tyre from the start line.
Slop - A term for "play" or "looseness" in a motorcycle assembly.
Slow Ride - A common on-bike competition, often seen at rallies or safety events (ie. riding as slow as possible, last to cross the finish line wins).
Slug - 1. Piston in an engine. 2. A slow motorcycle and rider.
Smell Me Bars - Ape Hangers
SNAFU - After attempting to fix something that wasn't broken in the first place and ya can't put it back together correctly, you have a Situation Normal All F_ _ ked Up
Snakes (road snakes) - The serpentine tar strips sometimes used to fill cracks on a racetrack or on a highway/road.
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I typed in Motorcycle wobble and found quite a bit on it. Then controlling a motorcycle wobble. But don't know what a slapper is do you? Maybe it is if the bars are going lock to lock. If so I'd bail off.

Honda wobble
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Motorcycl...a-Steering.htm
http://www.hagens-berman.com/honda_pressrelease.htm
http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/en...3&veh=8650




Goldwing Wobble
by titaniumwing on Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:42 pm
Bike has wobbled since it was new and was cosidering the all ball bearing upgrade til I had a flat on the road and had to purchase a Avon and WOW[ I can even say it backwards] the wobble was gone.....Wondering if anyone else experinced this also......however I am running a c/t on the rear and don't know if that along with the avon did the trick.



Kaw wobble
http://www.kawasakimotorcycle.org/fo...d-wobbles.html
http://www.kawasakimotorcycle.org/forum/kawasaki-touring-sport-touring/27767-voyager-steering-wobble.html"]http://www.kawasakimotorcycle.org/fo...ng-wobble.html[/URL]

Suzuki wobble
http://www.kawasakimotorcycle.org/forum/kawasaki-touring-sport-touring/27767-voyager-steering-wobble.html"]http://www.kawasakimotorcycle.org/fo...ng-wobble.html[/URL]

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...100-16258.html at bottom of page

Yamaha wobble http://www.yamahaxjrownersclub.com/p...6&p=178738

Wobble accident
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8asP...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmtoO...eature=related

WOBBLE
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A "wobble" occurs when the front wheel and handlebars start to shake suddenly from side to side at any speed. Most wobbles can be traced to improper loading, unsuitable accessories, or incorrect tire pressure. If you are carrying a heavy load, lighten it. If you cannot, shift it. Center the weight lower and farther forward on the motorcycle. Make sure tire pressure, spring pre-load, air shocks, and dampers are at the settings recommended for that much weight. Make sure windshields and fairings are mounted property.
Check for poorly adjusted steering; worn steering parts; a front wheel that is bent, misaligned, or out of balance; loose wheel bearings or spokes; and swingarm bearings. If none of these are determined to be the cause, have the motorcycle checked out thoroughly by a qualified professional.
Trying to "accelerate out of a wobble" will only make the motorcycle more unstable. Instead:
Grip the handlebars firmly, but do not fight the wobble.
Close the throttle gradually to slow down. Do not apply the brakes; braking could make the wobble worse.
Move your weight as far forward and down as possible.
Pull off the road as soon as you can to fix the problem.
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yeah tank slapper, when bars go lock to lock or slap the tank on either side repetedly, a wobble can be controlled, i was just wondering if the extreem could be controlled as well

the second video u posted would be a tank slapper.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SL4yUTe97n8
heres dani pedrosa controlling a bad wobble not quite a tank slapper
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sorry for the double post but this guy actually kept a tank slapper up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtjQ4SK4GXk&NR=1
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