Honda MB50 / MB 5 Bobcat

Honda MB50 / MB 5 Bobcat
Manufacturer	Honda
Production	1979 - 88
Engine	Two stroke, single cylinder, reed valve induction
Compression ratio	7.6:1
Ignition	CDI
Transmission	5 Speed
Frame	Steel spine
Suspension	Front: 27mm Air adjustable hydraulic forks Rear: Dual dampers adjustable for preload
Brakes	Front: Single disc Rear: Drum
Front Tire	2.50 x 18
Rear Tire	2.50 x 18
Seat Height	750 mm / 29.5 in
Weight	79 kg / 174 lbs (dry), 90 kg / 198 lbs (wet)
Recommended Oil	Honda GN4 10W-40
Fuel Capacity	9 Liters / 2.4 US gal
Manuals	Service Manual

Engine

The engine was a Air cooled cooled Two stroke, single cylinder, reed valve induction. The engine featured a 7.6:1 compression ratio.

Chassis

It came with a 2.50 x 18 front tire and a 2.50 x 18 rear tire. Stopping was achieved via Single disc in the front and a Drum in the rear. The front suspension was a 27mm Air adjustable hydraulic forks while the rear was equipped with a Dual dampers adjustable for preload. The MB50 / MB 5 Bobcat was fitted with a 9 Liters / 2.4 US gal fuel tank. The bike weighed just 79 kg / 174 lbs.

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Overview

Honda

MB 50 / MB 5 Bobcat

The Honda MB 50 / MB 5 Bobcat made its debut as the HONDA’s first 2-stroke 50cc road sport motorcycle. It adopted novel technologies such as the hanging bell type combustion chamber or the X-shaped backbone frame. It generated 7ps maximum output. The MB50 is a Honda motorcycle known as the MB5 in the US, produced from 1979 into the late 1980s. The MB was the road oriented version of the Honda MT50. Sales ended in 1981 in the UK and 1982 in the US (the only year imported), but sales continued in other European countries until 1988.

The MB5 was a very light motorcycle, filling a similar transportation role to a motorscooter, though styled like a sport bike, with a 49 cc (3.0 cu in) two-stroke single-cylinder engine, and a 5-speed manual transmission. The MB5 also had a speedometer, a tachometer (with a redline of 10,500 rpm), front disc brake, and Honda's comstar wheels.

Overview Having spent the 70s sat well out of the sports moped scene with the underpowered and heavy SS50, Honda returned to the fray with a brace of new models aimed at getting the best out of the new regulations of 1977. The all new 2-stroke, reed-valve MT and MB series were machines that Honda figured would attract the teenagers. The 2-stroke was a U-Turn for the mighty H, it is well documented that Mr Honda hated the simple stroker design, but had no choice but to begin making them in order to win in the heat of competition, after all the PR men claimed “When Honda race, Honda win” and with it came credibility in the showrooms. The M series could have been a stroke of genius from a production point of view at least, if only Honda had chosen to use the same chassis and components for both machines, but looking in detail reveals the MT and MB are actually quite different in every respect. A good example of this is the main frame, each model is similar looking from the outside but, once stripped of their bodywork, the two machines are actually completely different. It’s the same story with the fuel capacity, the MB has a larger range, 9liters compared to the MT’s 6.8, with the former machines tank running right under the seat to provide the extra space. This area under the seat on the MT is home to the 1.5 litre two stroke oil tank while strangely the MB, has the smaller oil tank at 1.1ltrs and situated right up front near the head stock. In typical Honda style, the MT and MB engines were complex, overly so in many eyes. The engine features a balance shaft, driven from the large straight cut primary gear on the clutch basket. This wasn’t a direct drive either, but rather via an idler gear mounted on the casing, adding weight and power sapping complexity in the process. The use of potentially noisy, straight cut gears, was a relatively good one, as the usual helical primary gears do eat up even more power and, with a mere 2.55 BHP to play with, all attempts at saving even the smallest part of a horse power were most welcome. The noise issue was addressed with a complex anti backlash arrangement on the idler gears. The balancer shaft also spins above the 5-speed gearbox helping to spray the lubricant over the gear wheels as it dampens out the vibes. Owners of the Honda MT soon came in for a shock when it came to unrestricting the engine to liberate a bit more power. This practice was commonplace among ‘ped owners and, although dealers may have been reluctant to get involved, the knowledge was freely available, as were a host of go faster parts. Unfortunately the Honda was not a simple machine to do this sort of work to, whereas the majority of 50s are held back by a restriction in the exhaust, the MT suffered a more complete method, with the carburetor, barrel, exhaust and even the CDI ignition all being used to downsize the power output and keep it within the letter or the UK learner law. This meant in effect that there was little that could be done, save for importing parts from countries that didn’t have such restrictive laws, which, being a time well before global trade, the internet etc, was simply not possible. As machines go the MT was, and still is a looker, with a futuristic take on how such a bike should be, but not quite the real deal when it comes to off road machinery. This didn’t really add up to much of a disadvantage as neither were any the traillie 50s of the period, they may have looked the part but the woeful lack of power negated an kind of serious use on the dirty stuff. Instead the Honda was made to look like it could handle the dirt, but still perform well on the road, after all that is where it was going to see most of its use. All three of the leading Japanese manufacturers had viable trail style alternatives, with Kawasaki and Suzuki having the business like AE50 and TS50ER respectively, and Yamaha producing the best selling DT50M. The MT was deliberately priced to make it an attractive proposition, so much so that at £389, it was a good £100 less than most models in the category with only the Yamaha DT50M, at £390 to compete on price. Despite all being limited to the 30mph top speed, there was still a marked difference between the various models when it came to performance, certainly in acceleration in the case of the Honda. The MT always being the slower of its generation to get a move on from a standing start, losing pace that it never gets the chance to make up. On the flat, and with a lightweight rider on board, the top speed could just nudge over the 30mph mark, however, the slightest incline would see this drop quite dramatically. The need to drop a couple of gears soon arises once the engine has dropped out of its narrow power band and it can be quite difficult keeping the relatively smooth engine spinning up and producing useable power once this process has begun. Thankfully the rest of the bike is well designed, with lots of room on board thanks to the long seat and low footrests that allow the larger rider great comfort, and the brakes work well too. The C90 style stoppers at each end give tons of feel and braking power, almost on a par with the MB’s hydraulic single disc. The MT50 didn’t hang around long as in 1982 Honda introduced a greatly revised version the MTX50, a machine featuring a more conventional steel cradle frame and Pro Ink suspension, with beefier 31mm forks doing the work at the sharp end. A tachometer was also added to the spec sheet of the MTX, but the machine, still powered by the same engine, was also 10kgs heavier come the weigh in. In 1985 the original MT, now called the MT50S-F, returned to the line up, albeit with a list of small modifications that can make ordering parts a nightmare for the unwary or eBay buyer. For example, the engine casings and many engine parts of the G model are not compatible between the earlier and later versions due to a revised kick start mechanism making engine and chassis numbers essential when ordering any part for the MT series. This was the story almost every year until 1990 when the changes to the MT abated, however, it remained in production until well into the next decade making it the last survivor of the 80s sports moped scene by a good margin. Honda MT50 Timeline 1980 MT50 S-A – Chassis number starting AD01-5000882 The first of the MT models arrived in January of this year and was phased out in September 1982 as the MTX replaced it. Towards the end of its career the price was dropped considerably to clear stocks. 1985 MT50 S-F chassis number starting AD01-5109771 This model is often referred to as the S-E but in effect they are one and the same, even so small differences mean care should be taken when ordering parts 1986 MT50 S-G chassis number starting AD01-5200034 The G saw major changes to the kick start mechanism and many small components like different indicator assemblies were introduced for this version. A fuel tank breather was also introduced and a revised side stand was also fitted, the ordinal suffering cracks around the mounting bolt hole. 1988 MT50 S-J chassis number starting AD01-5400001 a modification was implemented to the brake wear indicators and rear sprocket mount. The revised side stand was also fitted to this model 1990 MT50 S-L chassis number starting AD01-5500002 The separate rectifier and regulator units of the earlier models are combined into one single component on this model, a modification requiring a new design of wiring loom too. 50s in the 80s The period between being 16 and 17 years of age may only be one year in a life, but for most bikers it’s the formative one. Like a first kiss, or similar encounter with another human being, a first bike sticks in the memory forever, spurring rose tinted thoughts of days gone buy and is the reason behind the resurgence of interest in the sports moped scene. Source

Make Model	Honda MB 50 / MB 5 Bobcat
Year	1979 - 88
Engine Type	Two stroke, single cylinder, reed valve induction
Displacement	49 cc / 2.9 cu-in
Bore X Stroke	39 x 41.4mm
Cooling System	Air cooled
Compression	7.6:1
Induction	13mm Keihin PF05B carburetor
Ignition	CDI
Starting	Kick
Max Power	7 hp / 5.2 kW @ 9000rpm
Max Torque	5.4 Nm / 4 lb-ft @ 6000rpm
Transmission	5 Speed
Final Drive	Chain
Frame	Steel spine
Front Suspension	27mm Air adjustable hydraulic forks
Rear Suspension	Dual dampers adjustable for preload
Front Brakes	Single disc
Rear Brakes	Drum
Front Tire	2.50 x 18
Rear Tire	2.50 x 18
Seat Height	750 mm / 29.5 in
Dry Weight	79 kg / 174 lbs
Wet Weight	90 kg / 198 lbs
Fuel Capacity	9 Liters / 2.4 US gal

External Links

• https://classic-motorbikes.net/honda-mt5/